A little bit about "us" before we each introduce ourselves.

This year, we celebrated the 33rd anniversary of the day we joined our lives.

Thankfully, it was about a month before the pandemic hit.

We've never done gifts. We prefer experience to things so we take anniversary trips.

These getaways have been two days to two weeks, depending on circumstances that year. But always to somewhere that draws us. Somewhere pretty and peaceful, away from the usual distractions of a full life, where we can just "be" together.

Our 2020, pre-COVID-19 choice was an oceanfront hotel in a room with a spectacular view of the rocky Southern California coastline and the ever-changing sea.

It was glorious. We hope to go back there in the future.

In our rest-of-the-year life, we’ve worked together since the day we joined our lives and wouldn’t have it any other way.

At first, it was in the company Don started, Marketing Partners, Inc., which later morphed into Marrs-Group Consulting & Coaching.

We also write together. And teach together.

Shortly after our first book was published, Executive in Passage, we found ourselves leading small-group workshops for executives who were in the throws of career crises and life transitions.

We also started coaching individual execs who wanted deep levels of meaning and fulfillment from their work as well as the usual financial success.

Our most recent book, Grabbing Lightning: The Messy Quest for an Extraordinary Love, gives a close-up look at the journey to live love in every aspect of our lives — personal and professional.

As a teaching memoir, it illustrates how the “messy quest” can lead to the extraordinary love that’s possible for us all.

Over a decade ago, well before the book was completed, we started teaching relationship skills for extraordinary love.

The Love Conversation^® Approach teaches core principles and methods for making the quest for love less messy and more likely to yield the depth of love, trust, and connection we all yearn for.

It's been quite moving, a privilege really, to watch individuals and couples overcome challenges that have plagued them and instead create extraordinary love in their most cherished relationships.

Our next project is to offer that program online.

We live, work, and write happily together in our canyon home in Los Angeles.